He was also in the Navy for 20 years. In 2008 he battled prostate cancer, and now continues to stay healthy currently swimming 3/4 to 1 mile every day near Naples Island. He is a member of the Long Beach Grunions Masters Swim Team and was the race director for the Naples Island Swims in 2007.
 Open Water Races
- La Jolla Rough Water Swim - 3 Times